Children of the Grave
Sci-Fi Channel Special
A Booth Brothers Film/Documentary 2007
Featuring; Keith Age, Rosemary Ellen Guiley, John Zaffis, Steven La Chance,
Troy Taylor, Greg Myers and The Paranormal Task Force.
by Annette Munnich
Children of the Grave is a documentary about hauntings by children. This film focuses on locations in the midwestern United States. The Paranormal Task force, along with assorted prominent paranormal personalities, take the viewer on an intriguing journey exploring the unknown.
The film begins with Crown Hill Cemetery in Indianapolis, Indiana, where nearly 700 children from four local orphanages were buried in a mass unmarked grave. The investigation continues in Indiana at the Orphan’s Asylum and the School of the Blind.
Bartonville State Asylum and Cemetery in Peoria, Illinois is featured as well as the very creepy Pythian Castle in Springfield, Missouri. The latter part of the investigation moves to Zombie Road in St. Louis, where a photograph of children’s shadows is captured among the trees.
This Booth Brothers creation is a chilling must-see for people with an interest in ghosts, hauntings, the paranormal and all that lies beyond. It’s well made, entertaining, interesting and I give it a thumbs up.
I recently had the opportunity to read Bill Bean’s book DARK FORCE and ask him a few questions. Bill’s story is one of extreme terror that spans more than ten years that the Bean family lived in a house in Glenn Burnie, Maryland. I consider Bill to be a very courageous individual for all he has gone through and for openly speaking of it knowing that some will not believe. He was very brave as a boy as well fighting against the dark forces that inhabited the family home.
I have found Bill Bean to be a very kind and spiritual man. His strong faith assisting him in keeping the malevolent presence at bay that plagues him to this very day. Bill’s family was the subject of an episode of the television show A HAUNTING called appropriately “House of the Dead.” Of course there is much more to the story than what was on the one hour show. It was heartbreaking to read the details of their suffering that took many forms. Bishop James Long talks about demonic oppression and this seems to be the case in this story. The dark forces plaguing them with attacks, illness, and hardship at every opportunity.
May the angels always watch over Bill and his family~
Video from Bill Bean’s family story on the television show A HAUNTING. “House of the Dead”
Annette:Bill, how difficult was it for you to revisit all these painful memories in order to write your story DARK FORCE?
Bill:It greatly affected me emotionally, having to put myself back in that situation. I have given over 100 interviews and It’s still very difficult to discuss.
Annette:How long did your family live in the afflicted house?
Bill: We lived there for over ten years. Looking back on it, I truly don’t know how we did it. The most violent and intense activity happened between 1973 to 1980 when we left. My father left us in 1975 and it seemed like we were prisoners there, bound to the evil entities that co-existed among us.
Annette: Bill could you share with us some of the traumatic things that happened to you and your family during this period?
Bill: Many traumatic things happened, far too many to list. The first physical attack by the evil force was on my sister in late 1970. I was the next one to be attacked in 1971. Our attacks were very similar. We were both awakened in the middle of the night by an unseen presence. She was grabbed around her leg and she was able to let out a scream for my parents. They rushed into her room and stopped what was about to happen to her. She had red marks on her leg where she said she was grabbed.
As for me, I tried to get out of bed to wake my parents and a force grabbed me by my shoulders and slammed me back on the bed. I was pinned on my back and was unable to move anything except for my eyes. I was five years old at the time and I was so traumatized that I felt like I was going to leave my body. There’s much more to tell about this experience, but I don’t want to get long winded. It’s all in my book, “Dark Force”. I was attacked many times like that over the years. The most traumatic experiences involved the attacks on my mother. She truly suffered more than anybody I have ever known. My father was a very good man, but his demeanor had drastically changed by 1973. He turned into a raging alcoholic who physically abused my mother from 1973-1975, nearly killing her on several occasions. I have no doubt that the demonic entities were able to enter my father while he was in a drunken stupor. He left us in 1975 and my mother would suffer regular physical attacks from the entities. I was also quite traumatized as I witnessed four evil apparitions manifest just a few feet in front of me. Five adults were standing behind me as this was happening.
Annette: How are your family members now and do they talk about these dark and horrible experiences from the past?
Bill: I have my sister, brother left and we don’t discuss what happened to us. We had never discussed it at all until Discovery Channel [New Dominion Pictures], approached me in 2005. They somehow found out about my story and asked if I would consider doing a segment for, “A Haunting”. When I first mentioned this to my siblings they were reluctant to be a part of it. Then one Saturday evening we sat down and talked about it for the first time. They reminded me of some things that I’d forgotten about and they decided to be a part of the interview for the show. We haven’t discussed it since the show aired. They have been with me on several of my book signings and appearances, but they have not publicly talked about it. We have all suffered permanent damage and scars from this. There’s a lot of bitterness, feeling that our childhood was robbed from us. Neither of my parents lived to be 50.
Annette: What do you feel the presence was in the home and what do you think it wanted from you?
Bill: I have no doubt that it was demonic and it wanted to destroy us. My family was destroyed and both my parents suffered sudden, untimely deaths.
Annette: How did this trauma affect your childhood and how has it changed your life?
Bill: What childhood? I’m sorry to state it that way, but my memories of childhood are filled with fear,torment, abuse, strife, violence, illness, suffering, loss and tragedy. I was an empty young man for many years until GOD delivered me from it. I’ve had many experiences since we left that house, including the 1988 possession of a loved one. I have no doubt this occurred because the demons were trying to get to me.
Annette: Bill could you list some warning signs that people in paranormal situations should know in order to determine that they need help from an outside source as soon as possible?
Bill: Evil works behind the scenes. The devil doesn’t come to you and tell you that he’s going to create havoc in your life. Usually evil will need a door to be opened to come into a person or a family’s life. When that door or invitation happens, little things will begin to happen. Things that will first confuse and perplex the affected person. The entity will feed on these emotions and will gain power when the affected person becomes fearful. We must be very careful when being affected by evil. I believe that we can take authority over it in the name and in the blood of Jesus Christ ! I would say that anyone who’s experiencing paranormal events and is having a noticeable change in demeanor [in a negative way], or the family is in chaos since the activity began, should seek help right away. GOD Blessed me at the age of 13, when I was able to stand up the the entities and do battle with them. I had no power of my own, it was GOD’s power. I currently help families in need of deliverance from evil.
Annette: Any words of wisdom about what people in this type of situation should not do? Are there ways to make it worse?
Bill: The things people shouldn’t do: Don’t try and contact the entities. Satan is the original liar, that can even appear as an angel of light. We must be very careful. Contact and communion with evil will cause severe problems and even death in some cases such as my family. Please refrain from Ouija Boards and things of that nature.
Annette: What are your personal beliefs concerning life and death at this point in your life?
Bill: GOD is Life! Jesus Christ is my Savior! satan is death! fallen angels & demons are liars! I truly have experienced the Awesome power of GOD and the vulgar power of satan. I believe in eternal life through GOD & Jesus Christ! I don’t judge anybody, I have many friends with different beliefs. However, I can never thank GOD enough for delivering me from evil.
Annette: You were a brave young man. Could you share some of the things you did to fight against the dark force that your family lived with?
Bill: We were actually physically assaulted by these vile tormentors. I stood up to them one day in 1979 and did battle with them. This took place after my mother was picked up by an unseen force and thrown accross her bedroom. A Priest was involved for the last 16 months we lived there and he was bringing us mason jars full of Holy Water. I recall grabbing a Bible and a jar of the Holy Water, going through the house. I commanded the demonic entities to show themselves, in Jesus name. The house started shaking like an earthquake and four evil entities manifested in front of me in green beams of light.
Annette: In your opinion what are the most important things to remember daily in order to cope with an oppressive and aggressive haunted environment?
Bill: The most important thing is to call on GOD, Jesus & The Holy Spirit for deliverence from evil. Make an effort to fill the affected home with love, laughter, unity and uplifting music. Don’t be isolated from people. This is a divide and conquer tactic from the devil. There’s strength in numbers.
Annette: Sometimes people in bad paranormal situations ask me for some help and then tell me they don’t believe in God, angels, or demons. How would you respond to that?
Bill: I feel very sorry for them, for they do not know the Truth!
Linda Coil-Suchy is a Bigfoot phenomenon writer with a new book coming out in early 2009 called “WHO’S WATCHING YOU?” Her book is filled with fascinating Bigfoot accounts including her own personal story as well as what she learned from her grandmother as a child. I am very happy to have this opportunity to ask a few questions.
The Interview
Annette: Linda how did you get interested in Bigfoot phenomenon?
Linda: My interest began with my grandmother, who beginning in 1959 had an ongoing experience with a Sasquatch raiding her garden. Gram, as I called her, grew and maintained a huge and bountiful garden. To quote from my book: “She was a green thumb beyond belief. Everything she planted sprung from the ground in profusion.” Add this to the fruit trees that grew on the property and there was no wonder that a Sasquatch would be tempted to return time and again to partake in her little paradise.
Since I was a little girl, Gram would tell me of her experiences, many of which are documented in my book in a story about her. Growing up with these stories and being accepting of them, I tended to take her experience for granted and did not pay as much attention as I now wish I would have. It wasn’t until the early 1970s while living at the Ft. Lewis military installation in Washington that I began to hear sighting reports from soldiers stationed there — at the time this was a hot spot for encounters, and soon a stronger interest began to form. But it was the summer of 1976 when I had my own encounter that I began to take Bigfoot seriously and my own personal research truly began.
My own experience consisted of hearing and smelling a Bigfoot. I was home alone one hot summer night, sleeping with the bedroom window open. At 1:00 a.m. my dog whining near the window awakened me. I heard heavy footsteps walking alongside the house and past my window — very heavy footsteps — and I was suddenly accosted by an extremely foul smell. The best I can compare the smell to is rotten decaying chicken or meat. I had a garage that was attached to the house; this thing went into the garage and began to rummage around making a lot of noise. My dog, a golden lab named Big-dog, went and sat in front of the kitchen door that led into the garage while I stood behind him holding an unloaded rifle (as I had no bullets). Big, who was an excellent and fearless guard dog, acted totally out of character and neither barked nor growled the whole time; he simply whined and cocked his head back and forth while listening to the ruckus in the garage. In the ten minutes time or less that the thing was in the garage it rummaged through my freezer, moved the freezer, threw heavy things around and made a huge mess (although nothing was missing the next day when I checked). Then it left just as quickly as it came. I had no phone at the time so I couldn’t call the police. I sat up the rest of the night holding my useless shotgun. In the morning it was all over the news and the radio that at 1:30 in the morning, only half and hour after the incident at my place, two security guards and two police officers had spotted a Bigfoot at the small airport just down the street from where I lived. They chased this smelly creature into the woods where they soon lost sight of it, as it was too quick for them. I then knew what had been at my house that night.
Months prior to this there had been a series of sightings on the Lummi Indian reservation in Whatcom County. Three Bigfoot had terrorized the reservation for weeks –witnessed by many people including several Lummi Police officers. To begin my investigations I found and interviewed many of the witnesses from that incident. From this experience I began to slowly learn how to interview — what to ask and what to look for. In doing so I developed a strong desire to know the truth and what exactly these things are!
Annette: What are the hot spots for sightings?
Linda: My opinion (and this is only MY opinion) is that the heavily forested areas of the Pacific Northwest, from Northern California to Western Canada and Alaska provide the best opportunities for spotting Bigfoot. Although sighting and track reports abound throughout most of North America, the vast wilderness of the Pacific Northwest has the most documented cases and reports of sightings. Thousands of miles of dense forests provide thick cover for these elusive creatures. This wilderness is so vast, inaccessible and unexplored that to quote the great researcher Peter Byrne: “Fifty-four airplanes, missing since World War II, have yet to be found.” Food sources abound year round to support whole families of Bigfoot who could easily survive with very few hardships.
Annette: What’s the difference between a Bigfoot, a Yeti, and a Sasquatch?
Linda: My answer in a nutshell is… “The name and the location.” The “Yeti” or Abominable Snowman is an apelike cryptid said to inhabit the Himalayan region of Napal and Tibet. The name “Sasquatch” (hairy giants) is an anglicized version of the Indian term “Saskehavis” (wild man). The term “Bigfoot” was used by people in Northern California. It became the common name for the creature in the United States in 1958 after huge footprints were found in Humboldt County, California, and the story subsequently distributed by the Associated Press. The same or similar creatures are said to exist around the world under different regional names.
Annette: What led you to decide to write a book?
Linda: Several years ago I decided to write and document my Grams story for my grandchildren. It was a hit with family and friends and everyone kept telling me it should be in a book. There are many books written on the subject and not being a scientist I was unsure of what I could bring to the table and offer in a new way. So I put out a call over the internet asking people what they would want to see in a book about Bigfoot, and what questions they might want answered. Well, the response was amazing! Over a period of a couple of years I heard from approximately 8,000 people. After knowing what they wanted I just had to write the book, and this book is for them.
I have learned a lot in my years of sporadic research, but I am no expert, not by a long shot. Actually no one is an expert, nor can they be at this time. But there are those who know much (much more than I know), so I contacted the best researchers, scientists, and professors to answer the questions that the people really want to know. Those in the Bigfoot Community are a wonderful group of professionals that I feel honored to know and work with. Those researchers and scientists, as listed in my book, came forward to graciously offer their help and advice and gave selflessly of their precious time. And I am forever grateful.
Annette: What are your personal theories and beliefs about Bigfoot?
Linda: I believe them to be very intelligent, much more than we believe. Despite the old tales of violent acts that may well have been embellished by the media in those days, I believe them to be friendly and peaceful beings. In all my years of interviewing eyewitnesses I have never once heard a report of anyone being harmed by a forest giant. The stories you hear of them throwing rocks and making loud, aggressive and frightening noises I believe are only attempts at scaring folks away from their territory or that particular area — perhaps to scare you away from a food source or because they have family members nearby. If you don’t leave after they make a big ruckus and perhaps a big stink as well, they will retreat and leave. They do not want to cause harm. If they did they very well could and we would hear of it. That’s not to say that they would not fight back if forced to protect a family member. But hopefully no human would ever be heartless enough to put them in that position. They deserve to be left alone and live in peace just as we wish for the same. I believe them to have emotions and they are fair and unselfish. I believe that one of their favorite things to do is to WATCH us (people), especially the young males of the species. They seem to be overly curious creatures who like to watch while we camp and go about our business, they like to peek in our windows, and watch our children at play. Hence the name for my book, “Who’s Watching You?”
What are they and where they come from? I can’t offer a worthy guess. I listen to the professors and scientists whose opinions over rule any theories I might form. I am still contemplating. There is much to contemplate.
Annette: What should people do if they see one? Have people ever been harmed by a Bigfoot? Who should they call to report a sighting?
Linda: If you should happen to have a camera with you please try to get one on film! Most people are so shocked when seeing one that they forget they have a camera until it’s to late! If you do run into one it will most likely quickly leave the area, after which I suggest you look for footprints, hair on branches or scat (any evidence to prove what you just encountered). If you should come face to face with one who does not appear to want to leave (which is highly unlikely), I would stand very still and do nothing aggressive. Offer him a candy bar or treat if you have one! If he should show signs that he wants you to leave the area, I would respect that and immediately leave.
Other than the Classic Bigfoot horror stories of old, and those that are covered in my book, I do not know of any recent incidents of violence perpetrated by these seemingly gentle giants.
If you have a sighting to report there are many qualified researchers in your area who will be more than happy to listen and document your experience. And in most cases they will go to the location to look for evidence. If prints are found, casts may be taken. If you make your report to the police or the forest department, do not be surprised if they brush you off and don’t take you seriously, or they tell you that they believe you but to please just go home and forget all about it. If you have gathered hair or other evidence, please do not give it to them, you will never see it again nor will you hear of any conclusions that resulted from it. Please get it to a qualified researcher or scientist in the Bigfoot community. Many are listed in my book, can be found on the web, or contact me and I will see to it that you get a name for your area.
Annette: Is the Bigfoot the missing link between ape and man?
Linda: At this point in research an answer to this question would be purely speculation. How many human traits or ape like traits they have are still in question. For almost as many scientists and researchers there are, there are as many theories and opinions as to what Bigfoot are and where they come from. To quote the great researcher Peter Byrne: “I refrain from calling them animals because of the very significant physical attributes which strongly suggest they are hominids, including upright stance, bipedal locomotion, white coloration in the eye, and according to credible eyewitnesses, something very close to a human face.”
Annette: Are there certain times of the year or certain conditions that seem to correspond with increased Bigfoot sightings?
Linda: Although sightings are reported at all times of the year and in all kinds of weather conditions, I would think that more sightings are reported in the spring and summer months, at least this is what my documented sightings show. And this may be only because there are more people out and about in the forests at that particular time of the year to be available to have a sighting. But this is debatable as many sightings have occurred while people were out in the snow in the dead of winter, while hiking in the spring, camping in the summer months, and while hunting or picking mushrooms in the fall. Many sightings have occurred on private property at all times of the year, during storms and all kinds of weather conditions and in all parts of the country. Another interesting note is that most eyewitnesses were not looking for Sasquatch or hoping to have a sighting when it happened. It seems to be that many people don’t find Bigfoot; rather, it seems to find them.
Annette: Please tell us a little about your book plus where we can buy it.
Linda: “Who’s Watching You?” is due for release in early 2009. It contains over seventy highly credible and detailed Bigfoot eyewitness reports/incidents — “Our vast forests will take on a whole new meaning!” Also included are answers to the questions that people in general would like to see addressed in the form of exclusive interviews with the major scientists and high-profile researchers currently involved in the Bigfoot arena. The introductory chapter is Gram’s story of her adventures with a Sasquatch; this heart-warming story will help to heal the Bigfoot phenomenon. The “Classic” section contains historical Bigfoot accounts; many guaranteed to keep you on the edge of your seat, as well as a chapter of some of the most bizarre Bigfoot occurrences on record. Of special interest is a pictorial presentation of the first, the best, and the only related to the Sasquat/Bigfoot issue. There are over 150 photos including a special color section showing photographs of some of the best evidence collected to date. For travelers, there is an illustrated guide to Bigfoot attractions and places of interest to explore in the West. And more! Keep in mind that thousands of people came forward with their input, their most requested questions and their experiences to make this book a valuable resource – it is, “by the people and for the people.”
The book will be available by spring of 2009. You can order the book from Hancock House Publishers – Phone (604) 538-1114 or Toll Free number 1-800-938-1114 – or you can find them on the web (www.hancockhouse.com). You can also purchase a copy directly from me, especially should you wish an autographed copy. Please contact me at bigfootstory@yahoo.com.
“In a remote land there is a legend about this grand estate with tales of incredible riches hidden within but the house does not want to give it up…”
Estate of Panic premiered Wednesday November 12th following Ghost Hunters on the Sci-Fi Channel. This show is hosted by Steve Valentine who was formerly on the television series Crossing Jorden. Steve Valentine is a gifted illusionist as well as a well rounded actor. This time he is on a creepy game show that is a crazy wild ride of excitement and hysteria.
Estate of Panic is set in an old stately mansion. Seven contestants participate and the rules are simple. Each room they are sent to is loaded with cash ranging from one dollar bills to hundred dollar bills. If a contestant is the last one to leave a room they are locked in and out of the game. Also the contestant who collects the least amount of money is eliminated. So two players are lost for each room.
The twist to this is that the rooms are filled with unknown terrors as well as treasure. Anything could be awaiting behind each door including walls that close in, snakes, electrical shocks and floods of icy water. As for me personally, I wouldn’t do it unless I was so broke I was selling my own blood However being a fan of reality TV and a viewer of Fear Factor, I found this show irresistible. I think it could have some real staying power if they are creative enough to keep it fresh and delightfully insane.
Steve Valentine is assisted by his butler on the show, Rupert, who collects and counts the money. The last person is placed in a vault where the compartments are filled with money and surprises both bad and good. Escaping the vault in the allotted time gives the winner all the money collected by everyone throughout the whole show.
Ghost Adventures is a new series on the Travel Channel featuring the team of Zak Bagans, Nick Groff, and equipment technician Aaron Goodwin.This show is written and researched by Jeff Belanger.
I think we have reached the pinnacle here. I’m not sure how paranormal television can get much scarier than this program showing three young men having themselves locked in for the night at famously haunted locations. They enter at dusk and leave at dawn with no camera crew. Simply and dangerously on their own. Zak taunts the ghostly inhabitants for maximum effect.
The show premiered October 17th and there have been two episodes so far. The first was at Bobby Mackey’s in Wilder, Kentucky which has a sign that warns patrons that the place is haunted. Bobby Mackey’s is a country and western bar that was a slaughterhouse at one time. There is a well on the premises that was the scene of satanic worship and sacrifice that is referred to as Hell’s Gate. A young girl named Pearl was murdered and beheaded and the killers were tracked to the well where her head was deposited. Also on the premises a girl named Johanna committed suicide after her lover was killed. In recent history a maintenance worker named Carl became possessed and required six hours of exorcism. Zak was attacked by malevolent forces on this episode and had long scratches on his back. At the end of the episode he consults with Bishop James Long, ArchBishop at St. Christopher’s Old Catholic Church, who has performed many exorcisms across the country. Bishop James gives his warning that Zak is playing with fire.
The second episode takes the team to Houghton Mansion in North Adams, Massachussetts. The home is haunted by the Houghton family plus their driver. An automobile accident claimed the life of A.C. Houghton’s daughter Mary and the driver shot himself due to remorse. Ten days later A.C. Houghton himself dies. There is also the spirit of a little girl in the basement. To make things creepier the house is now a Masonic Temple that has an electric chair and a bed of nails on the premises. The house is possibly cursed as it has a stone wall on the property that came from a mine where 200 men lost their lives.
I would say this is the edgiest paranormal show on television. I don’t know if anyone could possibly top this or if anyone should attempt to try.
This is a good time of year to discuss the different methods of spirit communication and the risk factors involved. While I don’t wish to scare anyone off of something they may want to do for whatever reason, I would like to attempt to send you off on your journeys with a level head. The warning goes doubly strong to teenagers and young adults searching for a cheap thrill to entertain themselves.
I sent my son off to college this year with many warnings about paranormal games. There is a certain rush involved in sitting around in the dark with friends and scaring yourselves silly… Maybe a few dares go back and forth… Peer pressure works in many ways.
Conjuring & Satanism
The worst thing anyone can do is plug into negative energy. Sometimes I think people struggle with the hardship of life and find themselves willing to try things like black magic and satanic type things. It feels good to be powerful. It feels strong to control others by fear. All of it is the opposite of helplessness. So I think this is why people will do such vile things. The fantasy in the mind can be spun out of the lore that the devil will give you want you want in life as well as protect you. In reality your acts can be a doorway for entities that are not spirits as they have never been living human beings. Once they have been invited to the earth plane they do whatever they want and will use and abuse the very person or people who helped them gain entrance here, plus the innocent who knew nothing of the wickedness that went on without their knowledge, that could be your mother or baby sister… anybody at all.
Read this next part twice. If a situation becomes dire enough for help to be called in realize that a dark force cannot be sent to the light into heaven like a human spirit can be crossed over. A dark force can be banished from a person or place, but will usually remain on our plane of existence. It simply goes somewhere else. You see it doesn’t just go back where it came from because it was invited to our world and can remain here now. Do I really believe what I am saying here? Yes. I lived in a house previously occupied by devil worshipers.
Ouija Boards
Some people use Ouija boards and never even get any results. Some use them and get some communication and yet nothing bad happens. Some people, however, succeed in opening a door they can’t close. I’ve seen the Ouija used on TV shows like Most Haunted and Yvette Fielding thinks they can be a helpful tool. Let me explain something here. Using the Ouija at a haunted location and asking the spirit there to use it to communicate is not the same as using it in your basement and saying is there anybody out there who would like to talk to us or make themselves known? Do not use it in such a way that it can create an open door for anyone or anything to enter your home. It’s like putting a sign on your home that says anyone at all with any kind of intention just walk right in. You wouldn’t do that with the living, so don’t do that with the dead.
Table Tipping, Tapping, Rapping and etc…
Table tipping is when a number of people sit at a table and hold hands asking for spirit to give a sign or answer by moving the table. Tapping and rapping is asking spirit to make knocking sounds or to repeat knocks that you are making. These can be good techniques at a haunted location. Since it is used to speak with a particular ghost or ghosts on the premises it is safer than the open invitation of Ouija. If you suspect that your home is haunted ans are wanting to try this my only warning is that you must consider that encouraging communication can make your haunting become stronger and intensify. In fact any attempts at communication risk the strengthening of the haunt. I’m not saying you should never do it. I am just trying to help you make an informed decision.
Seance
Conducting a seance is generally not too dangerous as the people present attempt to communicate with those they knew in life or respected. A seance in a haunted location can produce good results and can be used in combination with other techniques. If however you are calling the spirit of Jack the Ripper that significantly changes my answer.
Frank’s Box, Ghost Box, Real Time Spirit Communication Devices (RTSC)
There is real danger here in inexperienced hands. Like the Ouija board, the ghost box is open to anyone and anything. There is no way to tell what you might get. Some of my best friends are ghost box researchers and many have had lingering paranormal activity in their homes after using these devices. The ghost box can be used to cleanse a home or area of unwanted spirits as well as help move them into the light if they are earthbound. The ghost box can work very well in haunted locales. Many of my friends who do research have stopped using it inside their houses and find it safer to be used in the backyard or garage instead. It’s always imperative that the operator gives the spirits time to go back to the other side before turning the box off. Always ask if everyone has gone back home and wait for a yes answer.
I would very strongly urge anyone who buys a device like this or makes a shack hack to have contact with someone who is experienced at using it for guidance. I recommend Jeff Rezman and Bruce Halliday who both have written articles here on the Python. There are some good rtsc research groups available as on the internet as well. These are powerful tools best to be used very responsibly.
Pendulums
The risk factor associated with these tools depends entirely on how they are used. A pendulum can be used to ask yes and no questions from spirit. When used as spirit communication devices they come with some risk. The pendulum can intensify the level of paranormal activity in your home the same as table tipping, rapping, and tapping etc…
Prayers of Protection and Visualization
It is possible to use protection prayers and also creative visualization techniques to ward off possible bad consequences. Seeing yourself enclosed in a bubble of white light can help. It’s always prudent to take a few minutes of time for this at the beginning of any paranormal investigation or activity. Remember that everything is made out of energy and strengthening your own energy is to your benefit. Actually if you are going to attempt any spirit communication it is best to do it when you are not in a low energy state, which is not to just mean that you are tired, but also means if you are in pain or in a bad mood. Wait for a better time as like attracts like.
Be smart. Keep good counsel and advisers. Don’t do things alone.
If you want games and cheap thrills I recommend backgammon and roller coasters. Be safe.
My first contact with Steven LaChance was during the interview I did of Denice Jones. They are very good friends and speak highly of each other always. Steven had some kind words for Denice that were included in the article.
I remembered seeing the episode of the TV show A Haunting that told his story. Recently I had the opportunity to watch that episode again. It’s called “Fear House.” This was the one that had the clown in it, and that made it stick in my mind as I have a clown thing since John Wayne Gacy.I don’t even like the Burger King guy.
Steven gave me a copy of his book to read in advance as it is released to the public September 1st. The book gives the whole account of the haunting at the Union, Missouri house. I ended up staying up all night to read it in one sitting. The story is gripping and intense. Too much to fit into a one hour show. In fact the TV program was not half as scary as the book is. Steven says about the house that the spirit would prey upon the fears of the observer. In essence it would morph itself into the things his family dreaded most. How awful is that? Steven lived there less than a month with his three children.
One of the most remarkable aspects to this entire story is that it doesn’t end there. The house was a rental and our hero Steve goes back there to help the new tenants.Anyone who has never been in a severe haunting situation will not be able to appreciate how much courage that takes. And this one was severe.
The second family is very much a part of this book. Steven goes back to help them countless times. The new family stays in the house a lot longer and suffers greatly for it. I’d like to say that I am as strong and kind as he is, and that I would do the same as he did, but in all honesty, I doubt that I could.
If you like reading paranormal books, put this one on your list.
Steven does a radio show on Blog Talk Radio Tuesday nights and begins filming the Haunted Survivors TV show in September. It is a Booth Brothers production as was Children of the Grave, a horror documentary Steven was a part of. The Zombie Road part really gave a chill. He is also in the new Booth Brothers documentary THE POSSESSED which is the story of the Watseka, Illinois house where the first documented case of possession occured in the United States. I actually just moved to Watseka, so look for a lot more about John Whitman, his house and the upcoming film about it all.
There will be a HAUNTED SURVIVORS TOUR, and a book tour, so check out Steven’s website as he may be coming to your neck of the woods
The Interview
Annette: Was it difficult for you to recount your horrifying experiences while writing THE UNINVITED?
Steven: At times it was like reliving it all over again. However, I felt that it was important for me to tap back into those feelings to bring them to the book. So many times in interviews I had been asked, “How did you feel at this moment or that moment?” by tapping into those feelings I was able to demonstrate those emotions with a clearer picture. That was important to me and I felt that it would be important to the reader. The hardest parts were the parts that dealt with my chldren and the personal losses that I revealed in the book which I felt were important to understand in order to truly understand my part of this haunting.
Annette: How has this experience changed your life?
Steven: Wow, the whole book, The Uninvited is how it changed my life. At the point when this started I was a very angry and bitter man. That has changed. I have learned to release a lot of that bitterness and anger which I feel helped get me into spiritual trouble in the first place. My faith is strong and sound. Not that I am a paticularly religous man, but I have learned to have faith is to love unconditionally. Faith and religion are two very different things. There are those who are very religous out there that have not learned the first thing about “true” faith. I have also learned that it is important to live your life with the most positive of attitudes. Faith, Love, and a Postive Attitude that is what truly fuels a good life.
Annette: How many years has it been since you were there at the house?
Steven: There are times when it seems like yestrerday. The last time I stepped into the house was to remove Linda (Helen in the book) and that was in October of 2005.
Annette: I am also wondering how your children have coped with the ordeal they went through.
Steven: They are all three doing great today. They dealt with it each in their own way.
My daughter at first had to talk about it. She found her solace in her religion and her faith. Today she is married and in Januay will become a mother for the first time. Yes, that will make me a grandpa.
My middle son, does not discuss it at all publicly. He barely discusses it with me. He is that way. Every once in awhile he will ask me something, but for the most part he has put it behind him. This is his first year of college. He is a English Major and a Film Student.
My youngest son. He will talk about it more than the other three to a point. There are certain aspects that he will not discuss publicly. We are getting him through that. He has been home schooled and will begin college in January for Criminal Justice. He wants a career in Law Enforcement and eventually wants to be a DEA agent.
Overall, I think they have adjusted well and they have gown into young adults that any parent would be proud of.
Annette: What is your opinion on the episode of A HAUNTING that told your story. I know an awful lot was left out.
Steven: They did leave an awful lot of the story out. It was the readers digest condensed version. I can’t blame them though, they had a very limited time. Some of it was way over the top and then some of it was downplayed quite a bit. However, it did drive me to write the book to tell the whole story.
Annette: Since then you have been busy working in the Paranormal, please tell me a bit about the new show HAUNTED SURVIVORS and your other works with the Booth Brothers.
Steven: Haunted Survivors is still in development and will start filming in September. What can I say about the Booth Brothers? Who wouldn’t want to work with them? They are awesome. Also, the Union House story has a very small part in the upcoming Booth Brothers production The Possessed due out in October. I am also working on some other projects with them as well that I am not at liberty to discuss at this time.
Annette: When will HAUNTED SURVIVORS go on the air?
Steven: That remains to be seen. I do know that you will be seeing myselfl, Tim Yancey, and Bill Bean as part of that line up.
Annette: You are also doing a HAUNTED SURVIVORS tour and radio show?
Steven: We ae hoping the tour will hit in January of 2009. Haunted Survivor Radio is every Tuesday night on Blog Talk Radio at 7pm Central.
Annette: What do you believe happens when we die?
Steven: Let’s just say that I believe in an afterlife. Other than that, it would get way too complicated to go into here. Well, I have this idea of self-inflicted purgatory. That hell may actually be a state of mind brought on by ourselves after we pass. Sort of follows the lines of Jean Paul Sarte. lol Anyone that is really curious about this can always look me up.
Annette: What are the best things a person can do if they find themselves in an extreme haunted situation?
Steven: First off, I have decided that I don’t like the term extreme. It really does not paint the right picture of what these type of hauntings are all about. I think I prefer the term violent hauntings.
The best advice that I could give someone is to find someone that has lived through it. There is a sub-culture of us in the paranormal community who have lived through these type things and we are committed to helping others. We have gained the right type of resources to help these cases and we also have the practical knowledge. We are their best bet.
Annette: Thanks so much Steven for making the time to chat with me. I appreciate it and wish you success with your new book and TV Show.
Annette: Steve, I have been looking forward to this for quite some time now. Thanks for making some time for me. I appreciate it. I think I have some good questions for you I’d like to start off by asking about the history of the Ghost Box, the different kinds of boxes, and what types you use.
Steve: The Spiritcom came out in the late 70′s to early 80′s. A bunch of scientists working on that were able to communicate with the other side using audible tones coming through some type of device that they were using and had developed. It lasted for a few years, but everyone started fighting and it never amounted to anything.
Then Frank Sumption got a hold of a Popular Science magazine from I believe it was 1995, and it was basically an article saying “How do we speak to the dead?” and “Could we speak to the dead?,” based off an idea that Edison came up with originally back in the 20′s. I can’t verify any of that as I wasn’t around in the 20′s, (laughs) this is just the story that I hear. Frank started building his boxes back in 2002, and gave them to Chris Moon, and he started using them out in the field. I didn’t get involved in this until 2007. It was only last year. My sister knew I was big into EVP’s so she e-mailed me an article about Frank’s Box. I saw that Chris Moon was using it and immediately signed up for one of his ghost hunter universities because I wanted to see the box in action.
In the meantime I started to go nuts looking for an idea of my own, since Frank’s boxes were not available, only Frank made them, and he gave them out, and there was only very few. So I ran rampant on the internet trying to find an engineer to build one for me. I ran across Joe Cioppi, who lives in Pennsylvania, he’s a nice guy and a retired engineer, and he said he was working on an FM version of a Frank’s Box in his own design. He said if I was interested in that, I could buy the parts and he would build it. So we started there.
He built the first device. I got it and I was not overly thrilled, it seemed to sweep very slowly. The whole idea and premise behind the box is that you have a nice fast sweep rate going through the stations grabbing only small bits and pieces of the fragments that they (spirits) utilize to form words and sentences, whatever the case may be. So it was a little slow, we went back and did this a few times until we finally got it right. I went over and sat on his couch and we went over ideas, what I wanted to hear and how we could go about building it. We finally designed a product that I started getting results with. So being that Frank Sumption called his design the Frank’s Box, I decided to call what we made the Joe’s Box.
We collaborated on different ideas over the course of the past year, and I’ll have 4 Joe’s boxes as of next week, and they’re all unique, they’re all different. What happened was I started using the Joe’s Box, and I found Frank’s message board and started posting my files the way I knew how. I didn’t have any direction at all, I just started doing my own thing. (laughs) Frank saw what I was doing. I wasn’t using a Frank’s box, but I was still getting communication. He had just got two boxes from Chris Moon that were not working. He fixed them and then he offered me one of those boxes which was #13.
I never asked him for the Frank’s Box, he had offered it to me. So I got it and used it for awhile, I never really got a whole lot out of it to be honest with you. Then I ended up sending it back because it just didn’t work. So he built me a new one which was #27. I do get good stuff from that one.
I use so many different methods. When the Radio Shack Hack came out, somebody got the idea and posted it on the internet that you could pull a pin off a radio and the thing constantly sweeps and is like an instant Frank’s Box for about $25.00. So what I did with that is the person said they had this idea but didn’t say how to do it. So I was at home, it was raining, I didn’t have anything to do so I e-mailed this person and said that if he knew how to do it, but wasn’t ready to post it yet, could he please tell me because there is a Radio Shack across the street and I’m ready to get jumping and get involved with it. So he e-mailed me back about what model it was and such. I went right across the street, grabbed it and within a half an hour, I already posted a couple of files from it.
He is actually Bill Chappell, who has now developed theParanormal Puck and the Ovlilus. He was under an assumed name. After he came out with the Radio Shack Hack, I used it and got some great stuff with it. I’m always up for something new. I sent my files to him and he e-mailed me back and said he had this website called ghostboxhacks.com., and he says can I use your files on the site? I said, “yes, sure, why not?” So he did that and everything went rampant.
The 470 is another model that was able to be hacked right after that which is the same as the 12-469, which incorporated a speaker, and is the only basic difference, plus it didn’t have the annoying click. So that was the one that really took off with a lot of people because it was small and portable with a speaker built into it and you could take 5 minutes to modify it and be up and running.
Since then I found two of my own Radio Shack models that were able to be modified. On a whim, I was walking around in Radio Shack and grabbed a 20-125, which is another radio that incorporates a speaker and also has a shortwave, and is the first one that brought the shortwave into the research. I figured I had to modify that and put that up on my website allowing everybody to go out and buy that and use it if they wanted to.
Soon after I found another one which is the 12-820 model. It’s an armband radio, it costs $29.99, and I did that one at the pizza parlor at work. There’s a Radio Shack next to the pizza parlor, and while I was waiting for my food, I took it apart and I actually modified it right then and there on the table (laughs.) So I got that one out into the public too.
There’s also other methods. I have a Sony Walkman radio (model #SRF-M37V) that needs no hacking at all. All you do is hold the scan button down and it automatically sweeps, never stops, that one you can buy anywhere it’s $30.00. So I try to get these ideas out to the other people who are trying to get this research going.
Since then there’s been so many other modifications to the boxes. Frank is on box #38 now, I believe, I have #27 so he has made 11 more boxes since he gave mine to me. As far as the boxes are concerned LC Duplatt developed a Joe’s Box type that sweeps the FM band, but he modified his to scan and sweep a little differently than the rest. He gets really good stuff with that. I’m always complimenting him on his files. I think they are excellent. I think he is going to start producing them.
Stefan Bion, from Denmark, developed an EVP Maker, if you actually go back a little ways. EVP maker, according to Frank Sumption is what he was using, and spirits were taking that program and telling him how to build a Frank’s Box before it was called a Frank’s Box. Now basically what EVP Maker does is you take a piece of audio put it in there, and it mixes it up, jumbles it, and spits it out. Kind of randomly grabbing words from whatever file you put in. He used that and that’s how he came up with the design for the Frank’s Box, which is the story that I have been told. I used it several times and never got anything from the EVP Maker.
A couple of months ago Stefan came out with this Allophone File which is based off of 72 audible tones, no words at all, just the audible tones. It’s very robotic sounding. You use the EVP Maker software, and you put it in there and it mixes up the 72 tones. I gave that a shot and all of a sudden I was getting full sentence answers that I have never gotten with any box. This was the first time I got full sentences from anything I have done research with. So I was pretty intrigued with that. What I did was, I decided to take his file and use a program called Sound Soap, which is a software program used to edit and take the noise out of files and stuff like that. It has a bar on the bottom you could actually manually sweep it yourself. So I put the 72 allophone tones as my program and I started just manually sweeping it myself and I started getting answers to my questions.
What I feel is that they (spirits) use what we use. It doesn’t really matter. I think it is more based on the person who is doing the research. I seem to be able to, whatever I turn on, get something. So I’m using the Sound Soap and the EVP Maker and all of a sudden the Speakjet comes into the picture.
Rob Fitzgerald from deadscience.com put together a Speakjet Box, which is basically the 72 allophone tones in a chip format and it sounds like a Speak and Spell. He put it into a box and he based it out of energy fields so when it detects an energy field it randomly jumbles the 72 tones and spits stuff out. Now I could understand if it says “hello,” that I get, but if it says “hello Steve how are you?” the chances of it actually jumbling audio together to say things like that is significant enough that it’s not a coincidence to me.
Then the Paranormal Puck came out, which is Bill Chappell as I said before. That’s about energy fields, he’s all about environmental readings. Energy fields, voltage, he’s really into the data and that kind of stuff. I was one of the beta testers for original Paranormal Puck that started in February and I used it until recently then he sent me a brand new one; a finished product of it. I use that.
It has a thing called phenomes, and what that is, is bits and pieces of human speech. It’s not words and it’s not tones, it’s actually human vocal speech patterns. Now if you run that into his program, you can change the speed of it, and it randomly jumbles it up and spits out human speech giving a nice clear communication. A lot of things can be caught in a real time format. Some things you can’t which is why I record everything and go over it later, put the headphones on and I have some incredible files from that.
And that brings us up to date on all the boxes that are out there, except for one more which is the Mini-Box. That one came out in December. I got that one in December and the first time I used that I went to my mother’s for dinner. I was using it and there was a grounded spirit that was at my mother’s house and he kept saying “Why can’t you see me I am staring right at you, why can’t you see me?” It was really creepy (laughs.)
The way the Mini-Box was working that night was that I heard the radio and this voice was coming on top of the radio, using the audio from the radio, to make his presence known, and he was not happy. We fought with him for awhile and then finally convinced him to move on and he said okay. Then all of a sudden all I heard was radio and he was gone. My mom hasn’t had any problems with her house since. She had people singing in the middle of the night coming from her closet and people walking around in her room; all kinds of stuff before, and after that night she hasn’t had those problems since. So does the Ghost Box work? I think it does. Can people say it’s radio? Of course. Most people will. I don’t believe that. I have gotten stuff beyond what I believe to be radio. I just think this stuff works.
Annette: That was a very good detailed answer. I would like to talk about the Box itself for a few minutes. I’d like to ask you about the uses for it as well as the limitations in your opinion.
Steve: Boxes are very useful. I’ve taken them out on location and I’ve gotten some really interesting stuff. LC Duplatt has also touched on this recently also. Bringing it to a supposed haunted location seems to fire it up and makes it a lot more active. I found that in a lot of situations.
There was a girl that lived up the road from me that needed help. I went over there and used the Joe’s Box that I was currently using at the time, and got a lot of answers to questions; things I did not know, and I went to school with her, but that’s pretty much it. Up until recently, I didn’t know anything about her history. Her boyfriend was living with her. I kept getting this name Ed coming through, and he was really nasty, cursing, and doing a lot of stuff that was just not nice. Come to find out the boyfriend’s father’s name was Ed, and he had a falling out with his father, and ended up putting his father in jail. His father died in jail. I didn’t know any of these things when I went in there. All I did was just repeat what I was hearing and they were blown away that I was getting answers, and this is like the first month I was using this box, so I was pretty intrigued that I was getting anything like this also.
Up until that point, I was sitting at home doing research and I was getting minimal stuff. When I went over there where they actually had activity, I was getting stuff that was pretty close to their situation. So I found that to be pretty good. Now as to the limitations of the box, radio method boxes are limited to the location you are in. You’re not always going to be able to get a good signal. Say for example, if you are in a basement. So if you’re in the basement where the activity is and you turn the box on and you don’t have a radio signal, then you don’t have anything (laughs.) It’s definitely a downfall. That’s my big problem and why I am moving forward into the Speakjet boxes and to more of the Allophone tones.
I mix and match. I do a little bit of everything just to keep it fresh in my mind. I want to stay current with all of it. I don’t want to stick with one option. I think I will bounce around until I find the one that best works for me and then maybe stick with that.
Annette: It seems that there are some other limitations in regards to what kind of information they will pass on. They don’t like to predict the future, they don’t like to try to give too much detailed information as to what it’s like on the other side, have you run across any of those things?
Steve: I actually have gotten a lot of files that pertain to the other side. They’re pretty willing to talk about that. As for predicting the future, if anyone wants the lottery numbers they’re probably not going to get them (laughs.) I think from what I have learned doing this, is that they have limited predicting ability. I have that file that you heard that said I have company and right then the phone rang. So they know things that are current and going to happen in the immediate future. As for the distant future, I’m not really too sure that they know any of that. I actually had a prediction tonight through the Joe’s Box and it was very specific as to what I am doing tomorrow night. So I am interested in seeing how that pans out because it didn’t seem to be a good message (laughs.) I don’t know if anything they say is actually going to happen and is true.
Annette: Bruce Halliday had posted some files that may be about the recent earthquake that happened in China, and I thought that was really interesting.
Steve: Yeah a few months ago we were getting a lot of earthquake messages. All of us. It got to the point of yeah earthquake message and I just started deleting them. For like two weeks straight I got nothing but earthquake warnings and I didn’t think anything of it. I never got China, and then Frank was sending me seismograph maps showing me that there are always earthquakes going on and not to take it seriously. So I didn’t.
Annette: There is another researcher, and I’m not going to mention his name, because I’m not sure he would want me to, who had a particular spirit that he was talking with. He started asking questions about when that person was alive and trying to research him. His communication got cut off. He heard other voices in the background saying “don’t” and “stop” and things like that and he actually lost contact with that spirit and never heard from him again. Have you ever tried to use the box to research anyone in particular? You know try to find out someone’s personal details; where they lived, when they died etc?
Steve: I have tried to do that in the past but never got anything. They don’t like to answer those sorts of questions. I shy away from doing it now because I know they don’t like it. I’ve had problems and been cut off at different points in my communication also.
Annette: That person lives in a haunted house and was trying to investigate the spirits that remain there.
Steve: Which is a great idea but can we say on the other hand that we are talking to spirits for sure? Can we say that they are who they say they are? If I were them, and wanted to have a good time, I could say I am so and so and let you run to the library looking up all sorts of records (laugh.) I don’t know where they are. Are they on a parallel universe to us? It’s possible. Are there different levels? I’m sure there are. I’ve gotten that several times where they say they are on different levels. The longer you are gone the more you move up on the levels. Sometimes I ask for someone, and it takes a long time like they have to go searching… I can’t say if it’s spirits or ghosts that we’re talking to, or if it is always earthbound spirits that we are talking to. Is it aliens (laugh) I honestly don’t know. All I know is I ask questions and I get answers.
Annette: It’s a fascinating thing. I think I have been privileged in a lot of ways to be able to listen to so many files. I am amazed all the time at the questions and the answers that are coming through; people actually getting in touch with their loved ones, and people doing spirit rescue. It’s kind of mind boggling, it really is.
Steve: I’m actually going over a session I did today. I went to Monmouth Battlefield Park, here in New Jersey. It’s where they fought one of the big battles of the Revolutionary War. George Washington was there. So I went over there today and sat in the middle of the battlefield and I did a session. This is the second time I have done this at this location. Both times that I went there I got British speaking people coming through the Box. Which is bizarre, because there are no British speaking people on any of the radio stations around here that I know of. Now considering that this was a war between America and Britain, getting British speaking voices is really interesting.
Now today I went over the file and I believe I crossed over five spirits today while I was there. They were speaking to me and were willing. I asked them if they could see the light and told them to go to the light. This isn’t the first time. I actually enjoy doing this. I feel like I am serving a purpose at that point. What I did was simply convince them. If you see the light, your family friends and loved ones are all over there, and they want you over there. Trust me. And then I hear people in the background saying “yeah Steve said it is okay” I think I have built up enough clientèle over there that they seem to know who I am now (laughs.) So when I said it, they were like hesitant, and then I kept saying “it’s okay go” and I keep hearing some Spanish radio station and then they were gone. Did I help cross them over? I might have. They said there were five of them. I didn’t hear anything after that so if there was five, I may have crossed all five over. I had that happen quite a few times.
Annette: I’d like to ask about your research in particular, what your hopes are for the future, as opposed to other researchers out there. What are you looking for? What are you hoping for?
Steve: Basically I do what I do every day, I think the skill is in the editing process; going over the file and being able to capture it with your ear. You develop an ear for it over time. Being able to isolate it and get it out into the public is a great thing. I’ve never done this for a cent. I’ve given boxes away. I’ve offered tons and tons of time. I’ve gone over files for people and worked on stuff for them. What I like to do, what I feel is my portion, is teaching and helping others. That’s what I really like to do. That’s what my research is about. What I hope will come out in the future is to eventually get a device where we could actually sit there and no matter who you are you could sit with me and hear what is being said. I think we’re a ways off from that, but it’s coming.
I started this back in early 2007, and it’s light years away from when I started. When I started, it was just Frank Sumption, Chris Moon and me. Those were the only people doing Box research at that time, and I was the only one using the Joe’s Box because I co-created Joe’s Box. Joe was an engineer. He knew how to build devices but he didn’t know what this research was about. He built it, we learned together, so it truly was a collaboration between us. We have a good working relationship that way. When I go to visit, his wife brings out coffee and cookies and I stay and talk for like three or four hours (laughs.) We have so much stuff to talk about. I always have ideas. He’s constantly trying to put things into motion. He’s now talking about working with the Speakjet chip and trying to do something with that. You never know what will happen next. It seems to change all the time.
Annette: Yes it certainly does. It’s out there and people are thinking about it. There’s this idea and that idea and it’s kind of like a think tank situation in a way. You have a bunch of very sharp minds all focused on the same sort of a goal.
Steve: Well the thing is people see your ideas and see what you’re doing, and sometimes it sets something off in somebody. You know, basically, what I did when the Radio Shack Hack first came out, I saw the idea of what was going on and I just kind of ran away with the idea. I saw what he did with that design and I thought any radio with a similar pattern, set up and circuit board inside it, could be done the same way. It could also be done in different ways and people are just kind of all over the place doing stuff now.
There’s not a whole lot in the development. It seems like everybody just currently is using what everyone else is using. Me, personally, I am trying to do new things all the time to keep it new. I kind of throw it out there and try to keep myself slightly ahead of the pack. People see me using things and want to give it a try. I have gone pretty far with this. I am trying to keep myself a little bit distanced so people look to me and say, well he gets good stuff, he’s gotten a lot of answers and I am willing to give it a shot because he did it. It’s kind of like follow the leader, not that I am a leader, because we are all working together on this, but I think that we should all keep moving forward.
Annette: Well, I think you are a leader, and I think that your curiosity, imagination, and enthusiasm has effected a lot of people Steve.
Steve: I get a lot of e-mails. It’s almost impossible to help everybody. I do reply, but when it gets more and more in depth I send them to my Yahoo Group where I can, or somebody else can answer it. That’s kind of the whole point of having a group and we have everybody working together on it.
Annette: Steve thank you so much. It was all very informative and interesting. I’m glad we finally got together to do this. I appreciate your time. I’m going to close with some tips from Steve on editing.
Steve Hultay on Editing
This is a style that I do. Basic scenario for me is if I get a 5 second piece of audio that, for example, says “Steve, I (er-ee-oo) love (ir ikk) you”. Granted, you can share that to the group and it would sound like a mess. I simply highlight the nothing worded area and I amplify it, slow it down, and also reverse it. At that point, if I get nothing by those 3 methods, in that highlighted area, it gets deleted and I’ll move on to the next section.
I go over all my files in the exact order that I get it originally, but I try to keep the crap in the middle to a minimum, so others can hear the message clearly. I can’t personally listen to a 35 second audio clip that say’s “Hi”. “Hi” takes up a half a second and the rest is just random audio nonsense, so why not just highlight the “Hi” and make it a 2 or 3 second file? And to add more to the editing process, sometimes a word during that sentence doesn’t fit and sounds like gibberish. At that point, I do the 3 methods and in doing that I reverse it and it actually is a word that fits in the same sentence. Now, I didn’t do anything but reverse a piece of nothing fragment that became something usable, which is still in the same exact section of the original audio file. Editing for me is very hard and takes a long time, but we have to grab every section that could possibly be something and utilize it.
Remember that whoever we are speaking with is mostly likely not a professional at communicating either. We can’t expect that whatever device we turn on, that it’s going to be full word clear sentences, it’s not possible. If we do not edit to get the full message clearly, they will eventually just give up on us because we are expecting them to do all the work and for us to do minimal at best.
Common sense has to come into play, if a section doesn’t belong, and is obvious it’s a fragment or piece of white noise just get rid of it. As long as you keep the file moving in the same direction without cutting and pasting words to fit your situation, it only makes sense to make sense…?…Right?
by Annette Munnich August 2008
A few months ago I was sent an amazing photo from my friend Rob Smith (EVP/ITC Australia) and that led me to trying to find some advice for Stuart. Stuart from Queensland Australia, feels he is attacked by orbs. He believes they are mean-spirited and out to hurt him. Now the pictures as you can see here are pretty extreme.I will tell you upfront that I have been kind of warned off this project because no paranormal investigator worth his or her salt nowadays pays much attention to orb photographs. In fact it’s true that many of the experts I tried to consult with did not respond.
The e-mails from Stuart to me pulled me in his corner. He told me that no one believed him or would help him. He has had many paranormal experiences in his lifetime. Stuart died and was resuscitated many times. He is able to see auras and have out of body experiences. My own experience in the paranormal has shown that people who have had near death experiences sometimes come back with “gifts” Stuart seems very sincere in his distress.
Orbs and the Paranormal Community
I do love the TAPS guys and I understand that orb photos can never be used as evidence to skeptics because they might be the product of a dirty lens, or dust, or even insects. Okay. This has evolved to a place where black and white thinking has taken over and orbs are totally dismissed as not being real. People have told me, “don’t even talk to me about orbs.”I have a sneaking suspicion that many won’t speak out due to fear of putting a dent in their credibility. One thing about me is that I don’t give a lick about what skeptics think or proving anything to anybody. As the old saying goes… “For some people no proof is necessary and for other people no amount of proof is enough.” Because orb photos could be dust or bugs I don’t think they can be evidence of a haunting in and of themselves. I think they are an energy phenomenon. They seems to show up in haunted locations, and are sometimes seen with a naked eye. Somewhere between the dust and bug theory, and the orbs are proof of ghosts theory, is the truth. Orbs are an energy phenomenon we don’t understand and they are of common occurrence in haunted locales and graveyards. In short, just because they can’t provide the investigator with the perfect proof, does not necessarily mean they are nothing. This is just my opinion, and I’m not afraid to tell it.
Dave Juliano from the Shadowlands Ghosts and Hauntings website says this…
“I always approach things with a bit of skepticism, so when I saw all these websites start showing off these photos as ghosts, I was just as weary as most of you. I just had to try it for myself. I took a 35mm camera that I had used regularly for 6 years in all types of lighting and weather and had never gotten an orb or other unexplainable photo before and went out with a few seasoned field investigators on a cemetery investigation. One of the investigators was psychic and she pointed out a few areas we should take photos, so I did. I also had ghost footsteps walkup behind me twice and I turned around quickly and took photos of the empty air. When I got my photos developed, I had these orbs and fog in those photos that I was told to take, as well as the footstep ones. All my other photos were normal. Coincidence?
Since we do not know what orbs truly are, just that they seem to be found mainly in areas where there is ghost activity, I will tell you what they are not. On a normal investigation there are about 10 people using 10 different cameras, 35mm and digital, and many speeds and brands of film. They all get their film developed at separate places. Let’s say only half of these investigators get some orb photos. Are these water spots or dirt on the lens? That would mean that 5 people all had similar dirt on their lens and all 5 did not clean their lens either. Are these orbs film processing errors? Well the 35mm cameras all had their film developed in different locations and used different film so that is very unlikely. The digital cameras can’t have film-processing errors. I am aware that some people feel that the orbs on a digital camera are an error in the digital processing of the image. When that error does occur in digital photos, the objects tend to be square in nature, not round and they cannot be semi-transparent, the pixel behind would have to be corrupted also. I will not even address the precipitation theory, no legitimate researchers takes photos in any form of precipitation. What about dust and dirt being stirred up? Can that be the cause of the orbs? If that were the case, I would think that there would not be normal photos in a sequence of photos from the same camera and location. All of the shots in a sequence should have the dust or dirt in it. We find that most orb photos do not appear in consecutive photos. All photographers present should get orbs if it is dust being stirred up as well.
These are just a few things for the skeptics to think of when they are condemning an orb photo as a fake or fraud and some things for investigators to consider when checking their photos for positives.”
Anyway back to poor Stuart’s situation
I would like to share some of Stuart’s e-mails to me to help you understand his plight. Now no matter what our personal beliefs are here, there is a person who feels very alone in dealing with what he absolutely believes is a paranormal attack. Since I felt he was sincere in his despair I thought he was worth a few minutes of compassionate consideration, yes?
Dear Annette, I’ve been a successful professional prospector all my life. Prospected internationally and in Australia , I’ve been very lucky, all I’ve ever done is ask and my mate up there has showed me the minerals. My Journey started when I was 6 years old when I got polio and was crippled. I cried and prayed for hours for Jesus to heal me ,as I didn’t want to be crippled .I woke up next day and was healed, My life is a long strange story . I’ve heard voices all my life that have saved me in dangerous times. Out of body experiences that have changed my consciousness for ever.I died 7 or 8 times on a life support for 1 .5 months and came back . I got a deadly incurable bacteria from bats in an old gold mine. Thats another story. I went on journeys to the other side , maybe that’s why these orbs are attracted to me. Maybe they see something different in my aura, I’ve seen aura’s around everything since I was six years old. Regards, Stu.. PS. I had a bad night last night , an orb came above me in bed and flashed a brilliant white light that hit me on the forehead, I then had an electric shock that really hit me hard right through my body. Twice now. It then zapped me 3 times in the head, cells sparking. 43 times now. Annette , if these orbs let loose on humans we are in big trouble, they are not friendly. I’ve have seeked danger all my life, I was a crocodile hunter when I was younger,I got hooked on the adrenalin in the hunt. Prospected in Bulgaria with the Russians, plenty of danger there, Prospected in the jungles of Central America, Panama, Costa Rica and Honduras confronted all the dangers, BUT I’m up against something different now something I can’t see fully , I am really concerned.
Dear Annette,My ears started to ring high pitched ,I was laying back in an arm chair , I had the camera ,pressure started to come on my head, I was about to be zapped I flashed and here is the photo. My foot in the picture, Regards ,Stu.
Dear Annette, Re: the EMF meter , I don’t have one. Every time I go onto the computer and send orb pictures, that night I get zapped, again last night. What I have been hearing is like a grunt or a bark sound, then I am zapped, but it sounds like it’s in my head . last night I woke hearing like a pack of savage dogs growing, I thought it was out side but it was in my head ,then zapped. When I went to sleep I thought of my old crocodile hunting days, I feel they read my mind, they certainly observe me on the computer as I have photographed them. They are very intelligent.It sounds crazy but its real. I feel if anyone keeps photographing them over and over and over in one area eventually they will be attacked. Regards, Stu
I think maybe because he is surrounded by so many orbs he is experiencing something akin to electrical shock from their combined energy. I suggested that but he feels otherwise. He feels they are coming to him with malevolent intent. I am referring this case to my friend Allison Andrews in Australia. She has a TV show there called Haunted Australia and hopefully some good contacts over there. More than I do for sure.I’d like to find someone who could help him in person.
Now it’s up to you my Parareaders to decide for yourselves. Is Stuart crazy? Seeking attention? Is his lens really, really, dirty? Or is Queensland the land of outrageous dust and bugs? I don’t know the answer.
If any of you has any help to offer Stuart please e-mail me at editor@paranormalpython.com
A special thank you to Steven LaChance and Dusty Smith, for being consultants on this case.
Steven and Dusty are both very straightforward and helpful. I appreciate the input very much.
UPDATE
With none of us knowing what to do in a case like this as it is the first of it’s known kind, it was decided to recommend A picture of Saint Michael and the accompanying Saint Michael’s prayer. Stuart reports that his attacks have lessened in frequency but still occur on occasion.
The Prayer reads as follows~
Prayer to Archangel Michael
Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Divine Power of God -
cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen
Annette: Denice, thanks for making some time for me. I am so glad to have this chance to get to know you better. I have heard so many good things. The movie THE SIXTH SENSE was loosely based on your son Michael’s experiences. Back to the beginning of all that has happened, what was your uh-oh moment when you realized you had a serious problem on your hands?
Denice: Hmm… I think when Michael started getting hurt by these things, I knew it was getting serious. Although when your children are so afraid of what they are seeing that no one will sleep in their rooms at night, or go in any room alone, not even the bathroom, I think you know you have an issue.
Annette: Could you tell me a little bit about how this began?
Denice: When Mike was able to talk he started asking me who was talking upstairs, but no one would be upstairs and I would tell him that. This would progress to the point in which he was very afraid to be alone in any of the rooms, and even to this day, he has to sleep with a light on. One day he was screaming that a man had tried to touch his shoulder, and I ran around my home looking for a man in the house, when I found no one I held Mike and he was still shaken and told me the man was crayon colored white.
I knew about ghosts as both my parents had some gifts, and growing up, we would hear and see things our home. Our cupboards and refrigerator doors would open and close on their own. When we would be sitting in the living room, we would hear a cracking noise in the wall, and then we all knew we were not alone. Usually, most of the time, we would see someone or something, go up the stairs. I was so afraid of ghosts growing up that I could not sleep. I would fall asleep when my eyes shut. My heart would race at night. I was very afraid. I would leave the doors open in the house so I could run out, something I would get yelled at for in wintertime. In some ways I feel I was being prepared for what I would have to deal with in later years.
I brought Mike to my parents home after the man had tried to touch him so we could talk to my mom. Mike and Kenny, my oldest son, went into their living room to get some candy, and Mike started to scream as he pointed to a picture my father had just placed on his wall the day before. He said that was the man who tried to touch him, and it was a picture of my grandfather who passed when I was 10 years old. Michael never met him, nor saw a picture. My father sat Mike down and told him it was his great Grandfather and that he would never hurt him. I thought maybe he was around because I cried and prayed to him when Michael had a troubled birth and I begged him to help him. Whatever the reason was he was around…
So much went on…
Mike would scream that a man was standing and watching him in between his windows. He would see a man with a bandana walk into his room, a woman in a wedding dress sitting on his step sister’s bed, a woman humming, and a baby crying in a friend’s home. He also saw many little boys watching him and running around, a soldier in blue with yellow stripes in the living room, two elderly women in the kitchen, black shadow men all the time, demonic, and he has seen Archangel Michael. I could go on and on throughout the years he has seen so much… sometimes they are trying to talk to him, sometimes they are watching him, leaning over him in bed, peering into a room from the door or closet, walking up or down the stairs towards him and so on.
Michael would go out of body and have visions as well. Like he saw an officer giving a ticket to a parked car and 4 men circle him, and they grabbed his stick and started beating him very badly.Mike said he was screaming for them to stop, but they could not see or hear him. Mike said he could feel this officer’s pain and fear. This upset him a great deal. Another instance was a girl who was kidnapped by two men in a truck; they chained her to a bed in a small home. One man was mean the other seemed to more caring. He said he could not feel her pain or fear. He also does not know if it was the past, present or future. He just knows he saw it and it scared him. His out of body and coming back into a paralyzed state would go on anywhere from 10 minutes to 6 hours. It was so bad he missed a lot of school.
House in Manchester, Connecticut
where it all began 1994.
Denice’s book THE OTHER SIDE
Annette: Denice, this must have been very hard. I’m sorry your family endured such terrifying hardships.
Denice: Thanks. It was awful. Michael would be choked, scratched, pinched and slapped by unseen spirits. We all would see, feel or hear things ourselves. We were all a bit scared by this. Things would go missing and so on. Michael still sees spirits it calms down at times and yet sometimes it is just horrible. He dreams with messages as well. Michael has had a few exorcisms mainly to stop the physical things, as you cannot exorcise a gift of discern like he has. It was very hard to try to protect my child from unseen things; I was brave when I needed to be. We all slept together and the kids would want me to stay up until they fell asleep, we had to stay with Mike as he would not go in some rooms alone, there were times when we all would go in pairs to go to the bathroom and to shower, of course we would turn our backs.
It affected our extended family as well. I remember one Christmas Eve, my niece, sister, and brother came to my home. My niece had to go to the bathroom. She went in and then ran out of the bathroom a few minutes later, with her pants down to her knees, screaming and trying to pull them up. The faucets came on by themselves and something growled at her and she refused to stay. My sister had to leave and I was very sad as it was even ruining my Xmas. My brother came for a weekend and stayed at my home. During the first night he was held down in bed like something was on top of him, and he said he would never stay at my house unless he was drunk! He went to stay at my parent’s home the next night. Then he went back to South Carolina, where he lived at that time. Many years later he and his girlfriend, were moving back to Connecticut and stayed at my home, I thought they would be okay, and it was a different place, (we seemed to move a lot to get away from these things although we never did). It did help to rid of many of the entities tied to a certain home, they tend to get stronger the longer you are there. Anyway, his girlfriend went to take a shower, and she came downstairs white as a ghost and in shock. She said she was attacked in the shower. What was the weirdest thing was that a patch of her hair turned white. She still has that patch of white hair and was never the same since.
I took Mike to so many doctors and psychiatrists to make sure it was never a medical condition that they asked me to stop bringing him. I even called 911 once when he was in a paralyzed state and then later, when he was at the hospital, they called in a priest who prayed over him and we walked out of that hospital, with everyone staring at us, as they knew it was not medical condition at all. He sees ghosts and one was attached.
Annette: Wow, I am utterly speechless. I think this is the most extreme story I have ever heard. I would really like to cover what is happening for you now, and in the future. I have heard wonderful things about your LIFE FOUNDATION, I wonder if you would tell us all more about it. Actually, just the other day, I received a load of e-mails telling me what a kind and giving person you are and recommending the LIFE FOUNDATION
Here are some of the things people are saying…
FromSTEVEN LACHANCE; “Denice is someone that deserves the admiration and support of every single person working within this field today. She is truly THE person you would want to go to if ever your find yourself or your family in paranormal need.”
From JOHN ZAFFIS; “Denice has been helping families for over TEN years now and I have been a personal friend and help with many cases that have come in to the LIFE FOUNDATION. Denice is truly devoted to helping all that she comes in contact with in need of paranormal help and is known and respected in the field today.”
From TRACY BACON; “I have known Denice Jones for many years. She is a very caring and generous person who puts other’s needs before her own. Helping those who have nowhere else to turn and nobody else to look to for understanding and assistance with the paranormal.”
From CARI STONE; “I know Denice on a professional level, and I’m proud to say she is my friend. Denice has always said yes I’ll help when I have called her and said I have someone going through something similar to what you and your family went through. I absolutely loved Denice’s book THE OTHER SIDE. I recommend it to everyone.”
From MATT MOYER; Denice put together a network to assist those whom need help with the paranormal activities they may be having in their home or business. By having selected paranormal Investigators throughout the country in the foundation, Denice can effectively send the help they need. It is an honor to be on the Life Foundation list of Investigators.
From JIM JONES; For several years I have known Denice Jones. Denice is probably one of the most respected paranormal investigators, and one of the greatest human beings alive. The finest words cannot describe a person with such passion, vigor, and integrity. Always looking for the positive in people, that is what Denice is about. Never give up, never surrender, see it through…
Annette: Well, that’s quite an impressive line-up! The LIFE FOUNDATION clearly has had a profound effect on many people. How did this all get started?
Denice: The LIFE FOUNDATION was started in 1993-1994. When I was searching for help for our family’s situation, I could not find any. It wasn’t like it is today. I did not own a computer then, so I had no clue how to find help. I went to bookstores and read as much as I could. I did find a book with Ed and Lorraine Warrens names in it. I wrote down the address and sent them a letter. I also sent photos of us to show we were serious. They never wrote back. Why? I do not know. In the letter I begged them to help. I told them all that was going on with my son and told them I had no money to pay them,as this situation was taking all my time. I could not sleep… I was up all night protecting the children. My husband worked. Maybe they never received the letter, I don’t know. I sent a few.
My mother worked with a woman who knew a group that studied under the Warren’s, who came to our home. Their story I wish not to go into, as it is so negative, and that’s something I try to stay away from. The only good thing that came from them was that they got me to the Bishop, who helped Michael get rid of some of the negative he was experiencing at that time.
While still going through our ordeals, it upset me that there was hardly anyone out there to help, so I spoke to my attorney, who copyrighted the idea, and asked me to come up with a name and I did; LIFE (meaning Living In Fear Ends) FOUNDATION. He set it up as a Non Profit Organization. All donations are tax free. I got a computer and started working. I would find investigators, see how they work, and ask them to join. Then when I received a case in their area I would send it to them. The groups began to grow, and so did the referrals. By the year 2000, I had helped 7,500 families. At that point, I stopped counting and printing all the cases. Now I have hundreds and hundreds of Investigators throughout the world; JOHN ZAFFIS, JASON HAWES, GRANT WILSON, BOB HUNNICUT, and TRACY BACON. TROY TAYLOR’S reps were the best, in helping the Foundation. There’s many more, I just cant list them all. Back in the day, I gave JASON and GRANT (from GHOST HUNTERS) cases as well.
Annette: If anything good has come out of your frightening experiences, what would those positives be?
Denice: The positives would be that it made us stronger as a family . Closer. The LIFE FOUNDATION is another thing. I have been able to help thousands of families in need of help. Helping others is definitely a positive. As well as meeting some great people/Investigators who work hard to help others. Jason Hawes was someone who helped with cases that came through the Foundation. Now they send me cases to get help for as they get many in due to the best paranormal show out there ” GHOST HUNTERS”
( I just love that show and those guys, true respect )
Annette: How difficult was it for you to recall all of your terrifying experiences in detail while writing your book THE OTHER SIDE?
Denice: I never found it difficult to write the book. I felt it was a bit therapeutic in some ways. Everything we went through still seems like yesterday and everyday there is something new. To us it is normal life we do not know anything different.
Annette: After those paranormal experiences went public on a large scale, how hard has it been to handle criticism from skeptics and non-believers?
Denice: I never cared about skeptics too much… I am living it, they are not. I do not think trying to live my life, I needed to convince anyone of what we were/are going through. I had no time for that. I was just trying to live my life and protect my kids. When all the TV news stations were parked in my front yard begging to talk to me someone from the skeptic society called and I spoke to him. he was very nice to me and I answered all his questions and he said I was doing all I should be and that was that. He never called again. I did have a hard time with Michael’s school, some of his teachers were afraid of him and some harassed him. However I never took what anyone said to heart as again I knew the truth .I could not help they did not. I always thought someday they would, until then I was okay with how one thought. That’s what makes us all different Michael had a hard time, as he could not understand why some adults did not believe him. But is okay now at 20.
Some Questions For Michael
Annette: As paranormal investigators and researchers it would be very helpful for us to understand more about the other side. Are there any insights you could share with us about the spirit world? What are your viewpoints about the afterlife from what you have seen? Do most ghosts want to be helped to cross over? What types of things do they want? Secondly, your life has been touched by the paranormal since you were just a small boy. What is your outlook on life and death? Is this plane of existence basically a learning school? Michael: The only thing that comes to mind is that Spirits are scared, confused and angry. You do not know which you are dealing with unless you have a gift. I can feel their emotions. The regular spirits just want attention when they know you can see them and if I do not give them this attention they get angry at me. Now I try to give them some attention and tell them with help to go towards the light as their answers are there. Some are afraid to go and some go. I was at Ellis Island when I was 9 and saw a man sitting in the courtroom, the courtroom was closed to the public, he was not human and was just sitting there looking at me, he knew I could see him. He looked sad like his life was over, he was dirty and old to me. I felt his emotion and then I was sad. I walked away. It was hard to shake that feeling. I do not know why I have these gifts, but, I plan on helping all the spirits I can. It is not like talking to a friend you can hug, joke around and get them better, this is a bit harder. I have my mom with me as many ask me to have her help too. They know she can as well.
The only insight I could give to an investigator, is if you speak nice to them like they are human still, you will get more out of them. If you go in a place and do not joke around too much, and go in like you are going to find someone who needs help, they would be more apt to allow you to help and come forth.
Remember they know you are there way before you know they are there. They know before you enter the home or dwelling. They read you, your light. Also remember most who are still in a location are from older days and in those days they are from the old school so going in laughing, playing around you lose their respect.
The women hardly spoke to men. The ones who passed within the last 40 years I think would not mind joking and such, but you just do not know who is in a haunted area. Children are all different they want to play, some are afraid as they were hurt by adults and so on. It is a crap shoot, That’s all I can say from what I have seen and what I plan on doing on the HAUNTED SURVIVORS series.
When it comes to demonic, which I see as well, I used to be really scared of them as they hurt me. Not anymore. I can actually send them away now, I use my soul, my heart, and my light. They are some things that no one should deal with if they do not know how. My life had been in an uproar because of them and I will continue to fight them and win.
They (demonic) effect your whole life; everything you do. If someone wants to deal with them they should know their life, finances, cars, jobs and people will not like you, things go wrong and so on just dealing with them. Its a choice to some, and some have no choice if you have a choice do not do it. It is as close to Hell as you hope to come.
Many say you need to invite them in to have them attack you. I do not believe this, maybe in some cases but not all. I did nothing but was born and died and crossed over many times. I see the dead and spirits attracts spirits and you can’t pick what comes in; sometimes it is bad. Then you have the demonic who wants your soul, or they do not want you to grow up as you may do something in the future they may not like. Remember there is no time there, they know and see all and know 20 years in the future. No one knows everything in this field, and I see many saying one thing and others another. I know what I know by going through it, living it. They could be fooling me too. I do see, hear and feel spirits, demonic and angelic and other things I wish not to talk about at this time. I used to always say why me? Why Me? I hope in another 10-20 years I will know why me. Life is about Time and Love.
My viewpoints about the afterlife… A friend of mine who passed was young, but when he came to me he was older, and was helping the servicemen who passed over. That was his work, so we all still work. He seems happy to be there. He said never to be afraid to pass over as you are pulled out of your body before you pass away so you miss the real pain and you can watch what is going on. He told me everything they did to him, he said it was like he was knocked out playing football. He did not pass away until after a few hours in the hospital, but, told me many things he saw before going there. He also said after he passed he stayed here on earth for 4 days, he said he had his hand on my mom’s right shoulder when she was walking down to the bedroom to tell me he passed. He had already came to me in a dream and spoke to me. I thought it was a nightmare.
Michael today Age 20
She told me, then I cried and we spoke about the visit in my dream. He said so many things to me…I am not afraid to die, and many should know they are taken before the pain, they know they are going over and they are taken. They save us from any other pain. Many times they are looking for their mother, father, children, husband , wife, sometimes they do not understand why you are in their home and are confused. They have not asked for anything else.
I have known the other side. I am not afraid to die. I did not know others cannot see their energy. I do not know if earth is a school but in the next 5 years, since I still go back and forth, I will start asking the tough questions and learning more. When I start working with the afterlife on HAUNTED SURVIVORS with my mom and The BOOTH BROTHERS, I will find these answers, and I will try to get as much insight as I can for all. I will do this at that time as it will be for all the people and not just me. Am I nervous? Yes I am, but, I have a great support group with me. I don’t know if I answered your questions… they were very hard questions…
Annette: Thank you Denice and Michael. Best of luck to you both with HAUNTED SURVIVORS and all other future endeavors. It has been very interesting, enlightening, and a pleasure as well.
Left to right: Jason Hawes, Denice Jones, Kieth Age, and Grant Wilson
The Booth Brothers
Denice Jones is the founder of THE LIFE FOUNDATION through which Denice has been able to help thousands of families in need.
Denice: Helping others is definitely a positive. As well as meeting some great people and Investigators who work hard to help others just to help. Jason Hawes was someone that helped me with cases that came through the Foundation. Now they send me cases to get help for, as they get in many due to being the best paranormal show out there. GHOSTHUNTERS (I just love those guys true respect)
Today I am trying to finish the sequel to THE OTHER SIDE as well as a few other books I am working on. One with Steven LaChance. I am also working with Steven LaChance, John Zaffis and Carmen Reed, traveling throughout the US on THE HAUNTED SURVIVOR TOUR , lecturing and sharing our stories in many cities and states. We begin this summer.
I alsoCo-HostHAUNTED SURVIVOR RADIOon Tuesday nights 8pm eastern time with Steven LaChance
on Blog Talk Radio. I am also working with The Booth Brotherson many projects as well as being Associate Producer and starring in the series HAUNTED SURVIVORSwithSTEVEN LaCHANCE, and my son MichaelwithTracy Baconand with guestsJohn Zaffis, Tim Yancyand so on… We start filming May 2008.
However being a fan of reality TV and a viewer of Fear Factor, I found this show irresistible. I think it could have some real staying power if they are creative enough to keep it fresh and delightfully insane. 
