An Interview with Denice Jones
April 2008
Annette: Denice, thanks for making some time for me. I am so glad to have this chance to get to know you better. I have heard so many good things. The movie THE SIXTH SENSE was loosely based on your son Michael’s experiences. Back to the beginning of all that has happened, what was your uh-oh moment when you realized you had a serious problem on your hands?
Denice: Hmm… I think when Michael started getting hurt by these things, I knew it was getting serious. Although when your children are so afraid of what they are seeing that no one will sleep in their rooms at night, or go in any room alone, not even the bathroom, I think you know you have an issue.
Annette: Could you tell me a little bit about how this began?
Denice: When Mike was able to talk he started asking me who was talking upstairs, but no one would be upstairs and I would tell him that. This would progress to the point in which he was very afraid to be alone in any of the rooms, and even to this day, he has to sleep with a light on. One day he was screaming that a man had tried to touch his shoulder, and I ran around my home looking for a man in the house, when I found no one I held Mike and he was still shaken and told me the man was crayon colored white.
I knew about ghosts as both my parents had some gifts, and growing up, we would hear and see things our home. Our cupboards and refrigerator doors would open and close on their own. When we would be sitting in the living room, we would hear a cracking noise in the wall, and then we all knew we were not alone. Usually, most of the time, we would see someone or something, go up the stairs. I was so afraid of ghosts growing up that I could not sleep. I would fall asleep when my eyes shut. My heart would race at night. I was very afraid. I would leave the doors open in the house so I could run out, something I would get yelled at for in wintertime. In some ways I feel I was being prepared for what I would have to deal with in later years.
I brought Mike to my parents home after the man had tried to touch him so we could talk to my mom. Mike and Kenny, my oldest son, went into their living room to get some candy, and Mike started to scream as he pointed to a picture my father had just placed on his wall the day before. He said that was the man who tried to touch him, and it was a picture of my grandfather who passed when I was 10 years old. Michael never met him, nor saw a picture. My father sat Mike down and told him it was his great Grandfather and that he would never hurt him. I thought maybe he was around because I cried and prayed to him when Michael had a troubled birth and I begged him to help him. Whatever the reason was he was around…
So much went on…
Mike would scream that a man was standing and watching him in between his windows. He would see a man with a bandana walk into his room, a woman in a wedding dress sitting on his step sister’s bed, a woman humming, and a baby crying in a friend’s home. He also saw many little boys watching him and running around, a soldier in blue with yellow stripes in the living room, two elderly women in the kitchen, black shadow men all the time, demonic, and he has seen Archangel Michael. I could go on and on throughout the years he has seen so much… sometimes they are trying to talk to him, sometimes they are watching him, leaning over him in bed, peering into a room from the door or closet, walking up or down the stairs towards him and so on.
where it all began 1994.
Denice: Thanks. It was awful. Michael would be choked, scratched, pinched and slapped by unseen spirits. We all would see, feel or hear things ourselves. We were all a bit scared by this. Things would go missing and so on. Michael still sees spirits it calms down at times and yet sometimes it is just horrible. He dreams with messages as well. Michael has had a few exorcisms mainly to stop the physical things, as you cannot exorcise a gift of discern like he has. It was very hard to try to protect my child from unseen things; I was brave when I needed to be. We all slept together and the kids would want me to stay up until they fell asleep, we had to stay with Mike as he would not go in some rooms alone, there were times when we all would go in pairs to go to the bathroom and to shower, of course we would turn our backs.
It affected our extended family as well. I remember one Christmas Eve, my niece, sister, and brother came to my home. My niece had to go to the bathroom. She went in and then ran out of the bathroom a few minutes later, with her pants down to her knees, screaming and trying to pull them up. The faucets came on by themselves and something growled at her and she refused to stay. My sister had to leave and I was very sad as it was even ruining my Xmas. My brother came for a weekend and stayed at my home. During the first night he was held down in bed like something was on top of him, and he said he would never stay at my house unless he was drunk! He went to stay at my parent’s home the next night. Then he went back to South Carolina, where he lived at that time. Many years later he and his girlfriend, were moving back to Connecticut and stayed at my home, I thought they would be okay, and it was a different place, (we seemed to move a lot to get away from these things although we never did). It did help to rid of many of the entities tied to a certain home, they tend to get stronger the longer you are there. Anyway, his girlfriend went to take a shower, and she came downstairs white as a ghost and in shock. She said she was attacked in the shower. What was the weirdest thing was that a patch of her hair turned white. She still has that patch of white hair and was never the same since.
I took Mike to so many doctors and psychiatrists to make sure it was never a medical condition that they asked me to stop bringing him. I even called 911 once when he was in a paralyzed state and then later, when he was at the hospital, they called in a priest who prayed over him and we walked out of that hospital, with everyone staring at us, as they knew it was not medical condition at all. He sees ghosts and one was attached.
Annette: Wow, I am utterly speechless. I think this is the most extreme story I have ever heard. I would really like to cover what is happening for you now, and in the future. I have heard wonderful things about your LIFE FOUNDATION, I wonder if you would tell us all more about it. Actually, just the other day, I received a load of e-mails telling me what a kind and giving person you are and recommending the LIFE FOUNDATION
Here are some of the things people are saying…
From STEVEN LACHANCE; “Denice is someone that deserves the admiration and support of every single person working within this field today. She is truly THE person you would want to go to if ever your find yourself or your family in paranormal need.”
From JOHN ZAFFIS; “Denice has been helping families for over TEN years now and I have been a personal friend and help with many cases that have come in to the LIFE FOUNDATION. Denice is truly devoted to helping all that she comes in contact with in need of paranormal help and is known and respected in the field today.”
From TRACY BACON; “I have known Denice Jones for many years. She is a very caring and generous person who puts other’s needs before her own. Helping those who have nowhere else to turn and nobody else to look to for understanding and assistance with the paranormal.”
From CARI STONE; “I know Denice on a professional level, and I’m proud to say she is my friend. Denice has always said yes I’ll help when I have called her and said I have someone going through something similar to what you and your family went through. I absolutely loved Denice’s book THE OTHER SIDE. I recommend it to everyone.”
From MATT MOYER; Denice put together a network to assist those whom need help with the paranormal activities they may be having in their home or business. By having selected paranormal Investigators throughout the country in the foundation, Denice can effectively send the help they need. It is an honor to be on the Life Foundation list of Investigators.
From JIM JONES; For several years I have known Denice Jones. Denice is probably one of the most respected paranormal investigators, and one of the greatest human beings alive. The finest words cannot describe a person with such passion, vigor, and integrity. Always looking for the positive in people, that is what Denice is about. Never give up, never surrender, see it through…
Annette: Well, that’s quite an impressive line-up! The LIFE FOUNDATION clearly has had a profound effect on many people. How did this all get started?
Denice: The LIFE FOUNDATION was started in 1993-1994. When I was searching for help for our family’s situation, I could not find any. It wasn’t like it is today. I did not own a computer then, so I had no clue how to find help. I went to bookstores and read as much as I could. I did find a book with Ed and Lorraine Warrens names in it. I wrote down the address and sent them a letter. I also sent photos of us to show we were serious. They never wrote back. Why? I do not know. In the letter I begged them to help. I told them all that was going on with my son and told them I had no money to pay them,as this situation was taking all my time. I could not sleep… I was up all night protecting the children. My husband worked. Maybe they never received the letter, I don’t know. I sent a few.
My mother worked with a woman who knew a group that studied under the Warren’s, who came to our home. Their story I wish not to go into, as it is so negative, and that’s something I try to stay away from. The only good thing that came from them was that they got me to the Bishop, who helped Michael get rid of some of the negative he was experiencing at that time.
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Annette: If anything good has come out of your frightening experiences, what would those positives be?
Denice: The positives would be that it made us stronger as a family . Closer. The LIFE FOUNDATION is another thing. I have been able to help thousands of families in need of help. Helping others is definitely a positive. As well as meeting some great people/Investigators who work hard to help others. Jason Hawes was someone who helped with cases that came through the Foundation. Now they send me cases to get help for as they get many in due to the best paranormal show out there ” GHOST HUNTERS”
( I just love that show and those guys, true respect )
Annette: How difficult was it for you to recall all of your terrifying experiences in detail while writing your book THE OTHER SIDE?
Denice: I never found it difficult to write the book. I felt it was a bit therapeutic in some ways. Everything we went through still seems like yesterday and everyday there is something new. To us it is normal life we do not know anything different.
Annette: After those paranormal experiences went public on a large scale, how hard has it been to handle criticism from skeptics and non-believers?
Denice: I never cared about skeptics too much… I am living it, they are not. I do not think trying to live my life, I needed to convince anyone of what we were/are going through. I had no time for that. I was just trying to live my life and protect my kids. When all the TV news stations were parked in my front yard begging to talk to me someone from the skeptic society called and I spoke to him. he was very nice to me and I answered all his questions and he said I was doing all I should be and that was that. He never called again. I did have a hard time with Michael’s school, some of his teachers were afraid of him and some harassed him. However I never took what anyone said to heart as again I knew the truth .I could not help they did not. I always thought someday they would, until then I was okay with how one thought. That’s what makes us all different Michael had a hard time, as he could not understand why some adults did not believe him. But is okay now at 20.
Some Questions For Michael
Annette: As paranormal investigators and researchers it would be very helpful for us to understand more about the other side. Are there any insights you could share with us about the spirit world? What are your viewpoints about the afterlife from what you have seen? Do most ghosts want to be helped to cross over? What types of things do they want? Secondly, your life has been touched by the paranormal since you were just a small boy. What is your outlook on life and death? Is this plane of existence basically a learning school?
Michael: The only thing that comes to mind is that Spirits are scared, confused and angry. You do not know which you are dealing with unless you have a gift. I can feel their emotions. The regular spirits just want attention when they know you can see them and if I do not give them this attention they get angry at me. Now I try to give them some attention and tell them with help to go towards the light as their answers are there. Some are afraid to go and some go. I was at Ellis Island when I was 9 and saw a man sitting in the courtroom, the courtroom was closed to the public, he was not human and was just sitting there looking at me, he knew I could see him. He looked sad like his life was over, he was dirty and old to me. I felt his emotion and then I was sad. I walked away. It was hard to shake that feeling. I do not know why I have these gifts, but, I plan on helping all the spirits I can. It is not like talking to a friend you can hug, joke around and get them better, this is a bit harder. I have my mom with me as many ask me to have her help too. They know she can as well.
The only insight I could give to an investigator, is if you speak nice to them like they are human still, you will get more out of them. If you go in a place and do not joke around too much, and go in like you are going to find someone who needs help, they would be more apt to allow you to help and come forth.
Remember they know you are there way before you know they are there. They know before you enter the home or dwelling. They read you, your light. Also remember most who are still in a location are from older days and in those days they are from the old school so going in laughing, playing around you lose their respect.
The women hardly spoke to men. The ones who passed within the last 40 years I think would not mind joking and such, but you just do not know who is in a haunted area. Children are all different they want to play, some are afraid as they were hurt by adults and so on. It is a crap shoot, That’s all I can say from what I have seen and what I plan on doing on the HAUNTED SURVIVORS series.
When it comes to demonic, which I see as well, I used to be really scared of them as they hurt me. Not anymore. I can actually send them away now, I use my soul, my heart, and my light. They are some things that no one should deal with if they do not know how. My life had been in an uproar because of them and I will continue to fight them and win.
They (demonic) effect your whole life; everything you do. If someone wants to deal with them they should know their life, finances, cars, jobs and people will not like you, things go wrong and so on just dealing with them. Its a choice to some, and some have no choice if you have a choice do not do it. It is as close to Hell as you hope to come.
Many say you need to invite them in to have them attack you. I do not believe this, maybe in some cases but not all. I did nothing but was born and died and crossed over many times. I see the dead and spirits attracts spirits and you can’t pick what comes in; sometimes it is bad. Then you have the demonic who wants your soul, or they do not want you to grow up as you may do something in the future they may not like. Remember there is no time there, they know and see all and know 20 years in the future. No one knows everything in this field, and I see many saying one thing and others another. I know what I know by going through it, living it. They could be fooling me too. I do see, hear and feel spirits, demonic and angelic and other things I wish not to talk about at this time. I used to always say why me? Why Me? I hope in another 10-20 years I will know why me. Life is about Time and Love.
My viewpoints about the afterlife… A friend of mine who passed was young, but when he came to me he was older, and was helping the servicemen who passed over. That was his work, so we all still work. He seems happy to be there. He said never to be afraid to pass over as you are pulled out of your body before you pass away so you miss the real pain and you can watch what is going on. He told me everything they did to him, he said it was like he was knocked out playing football. He did not pass away until after a few hours in the hospital, but, told me many things he saw before going there. He also said after he passed he stayed here on earth for 4 days, he said he had his hand on my mom’s right shoulder when she was walking down to the bedroom to tell me he passed. He had already came to me in a dream and spoke to me. I thought it was a nightmare.
She told me, then I cried and we spoke about the visit in my dream. He said so many things to me…I am not afraid to die, and many should know they are taken before the pain, they know they are going over and they are taken. They save us from any other pain. Many times they are looking for their mother, father, children, husband , wife, sometimes they do not understand why you are in their home and are confused. They have not asked for anything else.
I have known the other side. I am not afraid to die. I did not know others cannot see their energy. I do not know if earth is a school but in the next 5 years, since I still go back and forth, I will start asking the tough questions and learning more. When I start working with the afterlife on HAUNTED SURVIVORS with my mom and The BOOTH BROTHERS, I will find these answers, and I will try to get as much insight as I can for all. I will do this at that time as it will be for all the people and not just me. Am I nervous? Yes I am, but, I have a great support group with me. I don’t know if I answered your questions… they were very hard questions…
Annette: Thank you Denice and Michael. Best of luck to you both with HAUNTED SURVIVORS and all other future endeavors. It has been very interesting, enlightening, and a pleasure as well.
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| Left to right: Jason Hawes, Denice Jones, Kieth Age, and Grant Wilson | The Booth Brothers |
Denice Jones is the founder of THE LIFE FOUNDATION through which Denice has been able to help thousands of families in need.
Denice: Helping others is definitely a positive. As well as meeting some great people and Investigators who work hard to help others just to help. Jason Hawes was someone that helped me with cases that came through the Foundation. Now they send me cases to get help for, as they get in many due to being the best paranormal show out there. GHOSTHUNTERS (I just love those guys true respect)
Today I am trying to finish the sequel to THE OTHER SIDE as well as a few other books I am working on. One with Steven LaChance. I am also working with Steven LaChance, John Zaffis and Carmen Reed, traveling throughout the US on THE HAUNTED SURVIVOR TOUR , lecturing and sharing our stories in many cities and states. We begin this summer.
I also Co-Host HAUNTED SURVIVOR RADIO on Tuesday nights 8pm eastern time with Steven LaChance
on Blog Talk Radio. I am also working with The Booth Brothers on many projects as well as being Associate Producer and starring in the series HAUNTED SURVIVORS with STEVEN LaCHANCE, and my son Michael with Tracy Bacon and with guests John Zaffis, Tim Yancy and so on… We start filming May 2008.
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It is so awesome that she is dedicating her time to helping others out there with their paranormal expierences. That advice that her son gave is one good piece of advice. RESPECT should be any paranormal investigators first rule when it comes to investigations and clients!
Denice is one of the most interesting people I have met. Her LIFE Foundation helps so many people. She is friends with Jason Hawes from before the TAPS show came about.
I was really thrilled that she allowed me to ask Michael some questions. I was the first person in the US to interview him as she kept him out of the public eye.
Denice will be on the Python radio show with me January 27th.
What a great and enlightening interview Annette! I think I could listen to Denice and Michael share stories all day and not get tired.
The Life Foundation is a wonderful creation and I think it’s wonderful that Denice uses her experience to help others.
Michael’s insight to spirits and the Other Side is fascinating.
I love that Michael shares how important it is to ‘respect’ the spirits or to be respectful in their presence.
Thank you so much for sharing this with us!
Denice and Michael have a truly moving story. I thank her and her son for sharing it with me… I appreciate your kind comments. Blessings.